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Date: 2009-02-04 20:31:31 Name: Charlene Ellis Subject: Twin bad behavior Job Title: Kindergarten Teacher Number: 39

Thanks for your response. I am in close contact with the parents. Apparently this twin has been a challenge at home since infancy. The preschool the girls went to was based on montessori practices-totally child directed and a 1 on 3 ratio so she did not develop the skill of waiting to be helped or being required in a school setting to start, finish or even attempt a project or assignment that she finish. Her sister has learned these skills as does well academically and socially. She had at her disposal adult one on one whenever she demanded it. She is currently seeing a child psychologist that concidered ODD, but now says no(I think this may be fairly accurate for this child). However she has not given me many options for helping her in the classroom or helping me cope. I came up with a grab bag for her for calming activities she could try today-take 3 deep breaths, give yourself a short time out on the couch, ask to take something to the office, quietly sing a song you like where what I came up quickly this morning. She still tantrumed today, not as badly as yesterday. Mom is stay at home mom who tries really hard with the girls-good boundries are on both girls and consistant consequences and rewards. No trauma is noted. Hope that this helps. I would love any help or ideas you can give. Thansk

    Reply written by Ruth Herman Wells, M.S., Director, Youth Change at 2009-02-05 13:15:47

    So we have two possibilities, that the girl is ODD or untrained on how to be a patient, cooperative student. Either way, I would begin now to teach her those skills starting with the most important first: self-control. Begin by finding out her likes and dislikes, and use those as you go, e.g. if she prefers to be in class vs outside, then remove for tantrum, readmit for stopping. Teach in small steps and be very careful to teach behaviors not repeat expectations. So you will teach specific skills like voice level, voice tone, what words to use, and so on. You must also motivate her to be different so use some of our potent motivators that ease very resistant children into understanding that they can't even make it through the morning with a temper like that. Best resource: Temper and Tantrum Tamer lesson plan book. What's key? Motivate her, meaning she sees urgent need to be different.

Date: 2009-02-03 21:36:49 Name: Charlene Ellis Subject: tantrums and screaming in kindergarten Job Title: kindergarten teacher Number: 38

I have 5 year twin girls in my room. One is doing well the other tantrums and screams whenever work is required of her which often last an hour or more. I have tried various behavior techniques-extra time to finish, extra lead in time for transitions, one on one conferencing with her as behavior begins to escalate, giving choices and making sure rules and consequences are clear. I try to be as consistent as possible(I am only human,)nothing seems to work for more than a few days. Needless to say I am frustrated, angry and having a hard time teaching my other students. HELP! Today she threw pencils at me all morning.

    As you well know, what you describe is not within normal limits. Since the behavior is so out of the norm, your response must be equal to it. First, you need to contact the parent and ask if the child has experienced any type of loss or trauma. Twins could cope differently with a loss or trauma, one maintaining while the other doesn't. If that is not a possibility, an assessment by a mental health professional is a very good idea. Without knowing more about what prompts the twin's behavior, it is hard for me to give detailed responses. I would guide you completely differently for an acting-out, traumatized child vs. a child who has just never learned how to behave without tantrumming. If you get more information, write back again. As an aside, I suspect something upsetting may have happened to the student, given the differential behavior from twin to twin. Click for dozens of free articles on managing out-of-control students

    Last edited by Ruth Herman Wells, M.S., Director, Youth Change at 2009-02-04 17:14:31

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